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Private/"Alternative" Student Loan Rehabilitation?

Question:
Here's my situation - Due to some health problems of my father while I was in Law School and, following my eventual graduation, I ignored all my student loan notices and neglected following up on the optional deferrement and forebearance agreements.

Eventually, when I finally came to my senses and attempted to straighten out things, I noticed that I defaulted on one of my Private Student Loans (through Northstar and administered through Great Lakes). Although I've managed to get back on track with my other student loans (Citibank, Perkins School loan, and Northstar Stafford loans), my private school loan ("Alternative Student Loan") is now being administered through a collection agency, called the Van Ru corporation. My original debt was about $63,000 and with the "added" collection fees, they are now stating it is up to $ 85,000, payable in full.

Through pleading and begging, the collection agent I'm working with has stated that "due to my family's hardship and your ordeal, we're willing to settle this matter for $40,000). Rather than settle, I've asked whether I can rehabilitate my private student loan and have been told both by the collection agent and through a phone call with someone at Northstar that unfortunately, "they do not have a rehabilitation program" for private student loans. What are my options? If I do settle, what should I be aware of and ask for? Also, they claimed that there is "no Payment plan." Why can't I be given the option to rehabilitate the loan like other student loans (is it because one is government backed and the other is private?)

I've been losing sleep over this trying to figure out where I can come up with the money. They've stated over and over, "We're lowering the amount owed because 'we're willing to work with you'" but I just want to make sure I'm not screwing myself by not knowing all my options.

Answer:
I would consider researching and possibly litigating from a contract law perspective. Depending on the story with your father, the amount of time that has ped, your good faith, etc., there may be a real case to be made that they should give you a break and allow those deferments and forbearances retroactively.

You could look into the ogous deferments and forbearances available to people who take out federally guaranteed student loans; perhaps you could make an argument based upon standard industry procedures. I don't know; I'm just thinking out loud. As long as you had a decent argument, you might find that merely starting the process would make them more willing to give you what seems like a reasonable first step on the thing. But I'm not sure if, after all this, you'd wind up with better than the $40,000 deal they're offering already. I'm surprised they're offering that much of a discount, if you have a bright future as a lawyer. I'm wondering what they might be up to. Van Ru has a history here.

You might find it edifying to read some of Byron's old rants on the subject, via a Google groups search of this forum Can you consolidate private loans through ED? Probably not, but check . If so, they have their way with collection fees. I think the cap is 18.5%. I'm also wondering whether you could consolidate or litigate after reaching a settlement as to the amount due, if it turns out that you don't have the resources to pay all these different loans at once. Inadequate experience to advise, but I'm cross-posting to alt.bankruptcy in case Brett has comments. All that comes to mind is your transcript (the school is presumably not holding it up), what they're going to say on your credit rating (you may be able to find further advice on that by a targeted Google advanced groups search), how to characterize or time the adjustment for tax purposes (I'm not sure if you'll have a tax obligation for the amount they write off if it becomes characterized as the equivalent of taxable income for IRS purposes) well, maybe more will come to mind if we discuss it further. I'm leery of working with collection agencies, just because they have such bad reputations and my own experience was so unpleasant. If you were down and out, I'd be tempted to suggest telling them to go fly a kite, because there's some chance that their collection fee would vanish if/when they gave up and handed your account back to the lender. But since it sounds like you're on your way up, maybe you don't really have that option -- you have some incentive and possibility of getting your credit record shipshape -- so perhaps getting on with it is the better approach. Private loans are just that, loans held by private corporations. They set the policies and procedures for the loans. The Feds set the P&P for their loans and all lenders have to follow them to be able to participate in the program. f so, they have their way with collection fees. I think the - cap is 18.5%. I'm also wondering whether you could consolidate or litigate - after reaching a settlement as to the amount due, if it turns out that you - don't have the resources to pay all these different loans at once. No private loans can't be consolidated through the Direct Loan or any other consolidation loan program.

Here's my situation - Due to some health problems of my father while I was in Law School and, following my eventual graduation, I ignored all my student loan notices and neglected following up on the optional deferrement and forebearance agreements. Eventually, when I finally came to my senses and attempted to straighten out things, I noticed that I defaulted on one of my Private Student Loans (through Northstar and administered through Great Lakes). Although I've managed to get back on track with my other student loans (Citibank, Perkins School loan, and Northstar Stafford loans), my private school loan ("Alternative Student Loan") is now being administered through a collection agency, called the Van Ru corporation. My original debt was about $63,000 and with the "added" collection fees, they are now stating it is up to $ 85,000, payable in full. Through pleading and begging, the collection agent I'm working with has stated that "due to my family's hardship and your ordeal, we're willing to settle this matter for $40,000). Rather than settle, I've asked whether I can rehabilitate my private student loan and have been told both by the collection agent and through a phone call with someone at Northstar that unfortunately, "they do not have a rehabilitation program" for private student loans. What are my options? If I do settle, what should I be aware of and ask for? Also, they claimed that there is "no Payment plan." Why can't I be given the option to rehabilitate the loan like other student loans (is it because one is government backed and the other is private?) I've been losing sleep over this trying to figure out where I can come up with the money. They've stated over and over, "We're lowering the amount owed because 'we're willing to work with you'" but I just want to make sure I'm not screwing myself by not knowing all my options. Thanks for any help.
 
- Due to some health problems of my father while I was in Law School - and, following my eventual graduation, I ignored all my student loan - notices and neglected following up on the optional deferrement and - forebearance agreements. I would consider researching and possibly litigating from a contract law perspective. Depending on the story with your father, the amount of time that has ped, your good faith, etc., there may be a real case to be made that they should give you a break and allow those deferments and forbearances retroactively. You could look into the ogous deferments and forbearances available to people who take out federally guaranteed student loans; perhaps you could make an argument based upon standard industry procedures. I don't know; I'm just thinking out loud. As long as you had a decent argument, you might find that merely starting the process would make them more willing to give you what seems like a reasonable first step on the thing. But I'm not sure if, after all this, you'd wind up with better than the $40,000 deal they're offering already. I'm surprised they're offering that much of a discount, if you have a bright future as a lawyer. I'm wondering what they might be up to. - my private school loan ("Alternative Student Loan") is now - being administered through a collection agency, called the Van Ru - corporation. My original debt was about $63,000 and with the "added" - collection fees, they are now stating it is up to $ 85,000, payable in - full. Through pleading and begging, the collection agent I'm working - with has stated that "due to my family's hardship and your ordeal, - we're willing to settle this matter for $40,000). Van Ru has a history here. You might find it edifying to read some of Byron's old rants on the subject, via a Google groups search of this forum. - Rather than settle, I've asked whether I can rehabilitate my private - student loan and have been told both by the collection agent and - through a phone call with someone at Northstar that unfortunately, - "they do not have a rehabilitation program" for private student loans. Can you consolidate private loans through ED? Probably not, but check . If so, they have their way with collection fees. I think the cap is 18.5%. I'm also wondering whether you could consolidate or litigate after reaching a settlement as to the amount due, if it turns out that you don't have the resources to pay all these different loans at once. - What are my options? If I do settle, what should I be aware of and ask - for? Inadequate experience to advise, but I'm cross-posting to alt.bankruptcy in case Brett has comments. All that comes to mind is your transcript (the school is presumably not holding it up), what they're going to say on your credit rating (you may be able to find further advice on that by a targeted Google advanced groups search), how to characterize or time the adjustment for tax purposes (I'm not sure if you'll have a tax obligation for the amount they write off if it becomes characterized as the equivalent of taxable income for IRS purposes) well, maybe more will come to mind if we discuss it further. - Also, they claimed that there is "no Payment plan." Why can't I - be given the option to rehabilitate the loan like other student loans - (is it because one is government backed and the other is private?) Yeah, probably, but see above. - I've been losing sleep over this trying to figure out where I can come - up with the money. They've stated over and over, "We're lowering the - amount owed because 'we're willing to work with you'" but I just want - to make sure I'm not screwing myself by not knowing all my options. I'm leery of working with collection agencies, just because they have such bad reputations and my own experience was so unpleasant. If you were down and out, I'd be tempted to suggest telling them to go fly a kite, because there's some chance that their collection fee would vanish if/when they gave up and handed your account back to the lender. But since it sounds like you're on your way up, maybe you don't really have that option -- you have some incentive and possibility of getting your credit record shipshape -- so perhaps getting on with it is the better approach.
"Andre" <flipara@aol.com> - Rather than settle, I've asked whether I can rehabilitate my private - student loan and have been told both by the collection agent and - through a phone call with someone at Northstar that unfortunately, - "they do not have a rehabilitation program" for private student loans. - What are my options? If I do settle, what should I be aware of and ask - for? Also, they claimed that there is "no Payment plan." Why can't I - be given the option to rehabilitate the loan like other student loans - (is it because one is government backed and the other is private?) Yup. Private loans are just that, loans held by private corporations. They set the policies and procedures for the loans. The Feds set the P&P for their loans and all lenders have to follow them to be able to participate in the program.
"Ray Wood" <ray-woodc@usa.net> news:gLPS8.2988 - Can you consolidate private loans through ED? Probably not, but check - . If so, they have their way with collection fees. I think the - cap is 18.5%. I'm also wondering whether you could consolidate or litigate - after reaching a settlement as to the amount due, if it turns out that you - don't have the resources to pay all these different loans at once. No private loans can't be consolidated through the Direct Loan or any other consolidation loan program.
 
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