Question:
Here's my situation - Due to some
health problems of my father while
I was in Law School and, following
my eventual graduation, I ignored
all my student loan notices and
neglected following up on the optional
deferrement and forebearance agreements.
Eventually,
when I finally came to my senses
and attempted to straighten out
things, I noticed that I defaulted
on one of my Private Student Loans
(through Northstar and administered
through Great Lakes). Although I've
managed to get back on track with
my other student loans (Citibank,
Perkins School loan, and Northstar
Stafford loans), my private school
loan ("Alternative Student
Loan") is now being administered
through a collection agency, called
the Van Ru corporation. My original
debt was about $63,000 and with
the "added" collection
fees, they are now stating it is
up to $ 85,000, payable in full.
Through pleading
and begging, the collection agent
I'm working with has stated that
"due to my family's hardship
and your ordeal, we're willing to
settle this matter for $40,000).
Rather than settle, I've asked whether
I can rehabilitate my private student
loan and have been told both by
the collection agent and through
a phone call with someone at Northstar
that unfortunately, "they do
not have a rehabilitation program"
for private student loans. What
are my options? If I do settle,
what should I be aware of and ask
for? Also, they claimed that there
is "no Payment plan."
Why can't I be given the option
to rehabilitate the loan like other
student loans (is it because one
is government backed and the other
is private?)
I've been
losing sleep over this trying to
figure out where I can come up with
the money. They've stated over and
over, "We're lowering the amount
owed because 'we're willing to work
with you'" but I just want
to make sure I'm not screwing myself
by not knowing all my options.
Answer:
I would consider researching and
possibly litigating from a contract
law perspective. Depending
on the story with your father, the
amount of time that has ped, your
good faith, etc., there may be a
real case to be made that they should
give you a break and allow those
deferments and forbearances retroactively.
You could
look into the ogous deferments and
forbearances available to people
who take out federally guaranteed
student loans; perhaps you could
make an argument based upon standard
industry procedures. I don't
know; I'm just thinking out loud.
As long as you had a decent
argument, you might find that merely
starting the process would make
them more willing to give you what
seems like a reasonable first step
on the thing. But I'm not
sure if, after all this, you'd wind
up with better than the $40,000
deal they're offering already. I'm
surprised they're offering that
much of a discount, if you have
a bright future as a lawyer. I'm
wondering what they might be up
to. Van
Ru has a history here.
You might
find it edifying to read some of
Byron's old rants on the subject,
via a Google groups search of this
forum Can you consolidate private
loans through ED? Probably
not, but check . If so, they
have their way with collection fees.
I think the cap is 18.5%.
I'm also wondering whether
you could consolidate or litigate
after reaching a settlement as to
the amount due, if it turns out
that you don't have the resources
to pay all these different loans
at once. Inadequate experience
to advise, but I'm cross-posting
to alt.bankruptcy in case Brett
has comments. All that comes to
mind is your transcript (the school
is presumably not holding it up),
what they're going to say on your
credit rating (you may be able to
find further advice on that by a
targeted Google advanced groups
search), how to characterize or
time the adjustment for tax purposes
(I'm not sure if you'll have a tax
obligation for the amount they write
off if it becomes characterized
as the equivalent of taxable income
for IRS purposes) well, maybe more
will come to mind if we discuss
it further. I'm leery of working
with collection agencies, just because
they have such bad reputations and
my own experience was so unpleasant.
If you were down and out,
I'd be tempted to suggest telling
them to go fly a kite, because there's
some chance that their collection
fee would vanish if/when they gave
up and handed your account back
to the lender. But since it
sounds like you're on your way up,
maybe you don't really have that
option -- you have some incentive
and possibility of getting your
credit record shipshape -- so perhaps
getting on with it is the better
approach. Private loans are
just that, loans held by private
corporations. They set the
policies and procedures for the
loans. The Feds set the P&P
for their loans and all lenders
have to follow them to be able to
participate in the program. f so,
they have their way with collection
fees. I think the - cap is
18.5%. I'm also wondering
whether you could consolidate or
litigate - after reaching a settlement
as to the amount due, if it turns
out that you - don't have the resources
to pay all these different loans
at once. No private loans can't
be consolidated through the Direct
Loan or any other consolidation
loan program.
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Here's my situation - Due to
some health problems of my father
while I was in Law School and,
following my eventual graduation,
I ignored all my student
loan
notices and neglected following
up on the optional deferrement
and forebearance agreements.
Eventually, when I finally came
to my senses and attempted to
straighten out things, I noticed
that I defaulted on one of my
Private Student
Loans (through Northstar and
administered through Great Lakes).
Although I've managed to get
back on track with my other
student
loans (Citibank, Perkins School
loan,
and Northstar Stafford loans),
my private school loan
("Alternative
Student
Loan")
is now being administered through
a collection agency, called
the Van Ru corporation. My original
debt was about $63,000 and with
the "added" collection
fees, they are now stating it
is up to $ 85,000, payable in
full. Through pleading and begging,
the collection agent I'm working
with has stated that "due
to my family's hardship and
your ordeal, we're willing to
settle this matter for $40,000).
Rather than settle, I've asked
whether I can rehabilitate my
private student
loan
and have been told both by the
collection agent and through
a phone call with someone at
Northstar that unfortunately,
"they do not have a rehabilitation
program" for private student
loans.
What are my options? If I do
settle, what should I be aware
of and ask for? Also, they claimed
that there is "no Payment
plan." Why can't I be given
the option to rehabilitate the
loan
like other student
loans (is it because one is
government backed and the other
is private?)
I've been losing sleep over
this trying to figure out where
I can come up with the money.
They've stated over and over,
"We're lowering the amount
owed because 'we're willing
to work with you'" but
I just want to make sure I'm
not screwing myself by not knowing
all my options.
Thanks for any help.
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- Due to some health problems
of my father while I was in
Law School - and, following
my eventual graduation, I ignored
all my student
loan
- notices and neglected following
up on the optional deferrement
and - forebearance agreements.
I would consider researching
and possibly litigating from
a contract law perspective.
Depending on the story
with your father, the amount
of time that has ped, your good
faith, etc., there may be a
real case to be made that they
should give you a break and
allow those deferments and forbearances
retroactively. You could
look into the ogous deferments
and forbearances available to
people who take out federally
guaranteed student
loans; perhaps you could make
an argument based upon standard
industry procedures. I
don't know; I'm just thinking
out loud. As long as you
had a decent argument, you might
find that merely starting the
process would make them more
willing to give you what seems
like a reasonable first step
on the thing. But I'm
not sure if, after all this,
you'd wind up with better than
the $40,000 deal they're offering
already. I'm surprised
they're offering that much of
a discount, if you have a bright
future as a lawyer. I'm
wondering what they might be
up to.
- my private school loan
("Alternative
Student
Loan")
is now - being administered
through a collection agency,
called the Van Ru - corporation.
My original debt was about $63,000
and with the "added"
- collection fees, they are
now stating it is up to $ 85,000,
payable in - full. Through pleading
and begging, the collection
agent I'm working - with has
stated that "due to my
family's hardship and your ordeal,
- we're willing to settle this
matter for $40,000). Van Ru
has a history here. You
might find it edifying to read
some of Byron's old rants on
the subject, via a Google groups
search of this forum.
- Rather than settle, I've asked
whether I can rehabilitate my
private - student
loan
and have been told both by the
collection agent and - through
a phone call with someone at
Northstar that unfortunately,
- "they do not have a rehabilitation
program" for private student
loans. Can you consolidate private
loans through ED? Probably
not, but check . If so,
they have their way with collection
fees. I think the cap
is 18.5%. I'm also wondering
whether you could consolidate
or litigate after reaching a
settlement as to the amount
due, if it turns out that you
don't have the resources to
pay all these different loans
at once.
- What are my options? If I
do settle, what should I be
aware of and ask - for? Inadequate
experience to advise, but I'm
cross-posting to alt.bankruptcy
in case Brett has comments.
All that comes to mind is your
transcript (the school is presumably
not holding it up), what they're
going to say on your credit
rating (you may be able to find
further advice on that by a
targeted Google advanced groups
search), how to characterize
or time the adjustment for tax
purposes (I'm not sure if you'll
have a tax obligation for the
amount they write off if it
becomes characterized as the
equivalent of taxable income
for IRS purposes) well, maybe
more will come to mind if we
discuss it further.
- Also, they claimed that there
is "no Payment plan."
Why can't I - be given the option
to rehabilitate the loan
like other student
loans - (is it because one is
government backed and the other
is private?) Yeah, probably,
but see above.
- I've been losing sleep over
this trying to figure out where
I can come - up with the money.
They've stated over and over,
"We're lowering the - amount
owed because 'we're willing
to work with you'" but
I just want - to make sure I'm
not screwing myself by not knowing
all my options. I'm leery of
working with collection agencies,
just because they have such
bad reputations and my own experience
was so unpleasant. If
you were down and out, I'd be
tempted to suggest telling them
to go fly a kite, because there's
some chance that their collection
fee would vanish if/when they
gave up and handed your account
back to the lender. But
since it sounds like you're
on your way up, maybe you don't
really have that option -- you
have some incentive and possibility
of getting your credit record
shipshape -- so perhaps getting
on with it is the better approach.
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"Andre"
<flipara@aol.com> - Rather
than settle, I've asked whether
I can rehabilitate my private
- student
loan
and have been told both by the
collection agent and - through
a phone call with someone at
Northstar that unfortunately,
- "they do not have a rehabilitation
program" for private student
loans.
- What are my options? If I
do settle, what should I be
aware of and ask - for? Also,
they claimed that there is "no
Payment plan." Why can't
I - be given the option to rehabilitate
the loan
like other student
loans - (is it because one is
government backed and the other
is private?) Yup. Private
loans are just that, loans held
by private corporations. They
set the policies and procedures
for the loans. The Feds
set the P&P for their loans
and all lenders have to follow
them to be able to participate
in the program.
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"Ray
Wood" <ray-woodc@usa.net>
news:gLPS8.2988 - Can you consolidate
private loans through ED? Probably
not, but check - . If
so, they have their way with
collection fees. I think
the - cap is 18.5%. I'm
also wondering whether you could
consolidate or litigate - after
reaching a settlement as to
the amount due, if it turns
out that you - don't have the
resources to pay all these different
loans at once. No private loans
can't be consolidated through
the Direct Loan
or any other consolidation loan
program.
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