Question:
I'm 28 years old, and have no credit
history, since I didn't go to college
after highschool and didnt get the
plethora of "student"
creditcard offers that all my friends
did. Obviously, it sucks to be 28
years old with no credit, so I want
to do anything I can to remedy this
as soon as possible. I was wondering
if there would be any benefit for
me to apply for several "secured"
creditcards at once?
Since most
cards that I have found offer base
$500 credit limits with the minimum
security deposit, would it be more
beneficial to hold 2 or 3 of these
secured cards from different companies
so I can use thier cumulative credit
from day to day? Will this
in any way expedite the establishment
of my credit rating? I dont
lead an extravagant lifestyle, and
my job pays enough so keeping up
on the payments is not an issue.
I am worried
about this because in about 6-8
months I will probably have to move
out of the rented apartment I share
now with my friend and his gf (since
they may be moving to another state),
and will have to find another place
to live that is less expensive.
I dont want to be screwed because
I dont p the credit checks (I was
lucky enough that our current landlord
didnt do a credit check on everyone
on the lease). If anyone has any
other suggestions (besides applying
for secured cards) for someone in
my position to establish thier credit
rating, I would be most appreciative!
Answer:
I think there are two or three issues
here:
(1) Will a
secured card, paid on time each
month, benefit your credit rating?
The answer here when that question
was asked before was Yes, the on-time
payments are reported to the credit
bureau(s) and the fact that the
card was secured is not reported.
So potential lenders see this as
"regular" credit. Whether
that's actually true, I don't know.
Or it might have been true when
it was said, but may no longer be
true. Credit bureaus are always
trying to upgrade their offerings
to lenders. My suggestion is to
ask a bank (see below).
(2) Are several
cards better or worse than one card
if the total limit is the same?
I don't know that this question
has ever been answered here explicitly.
My hunch is that it doesn't matter.
Part of your credit score is the
total credit available to you --
and a higher line of credit may
not be favorable because of the
possibility you could one day max
out all your cards and disappear.
Don't rely on my hunch, by any means.
Again, I advise asking a bank (see
below).
(3) Are secured
card(s) right for you at all? You
didn't ask this question, but I'm
going to suggest you at least explore
the possibility of an unsecured
card (see bottom of this post).
With a secured card, obviously you
have some money tied up, often earning
no interest or not a competitive
rate. The cards also often have
application fees, annual fees, and
the like; so their real cost can
be quite high. Consider the overall
cost of any card before you apply.
Now, about
asking a bank. If at all possible,
go to your bank in person for this
visit. Don't telephone; if no branch
of your bank is close enough then
go to another bank, but it's best
if you go where you can truthfully
say you are already a customer.
Tellers will not know the answers
to these questions, so don't go
to the tellers. You want a "platform
officer", someone behind the
railing who makes decisions about
loans. Your opening gambit should
be something like, "I have
a (checking, savings) account here,
and I need some advice about establishing
credit so that in a couple of years
I will be in a position to get a
home mortgage.
Can you direct
me to a person who makes credit
decisions, or who knows about what
is best on a credit report?"
Obviously you don't say that if
the first sentence is completely
false, but if it's true or at least
possible then you have just handed
the bank a financial incentive to
talk to you and help you along.
It also helps if you are nicely
dressed and groomed in a businesslike
way when you go in -- this is not
the time for ripped T-shirt, nose
ring, and purple hair even if that's
normal attire at your job. Once
you're sitting down with someone,
be candid about your situation.
The fact that you are trying to
plan ahead weighs in your favor.
Banks really
like solid citizen because those
are the ones who pay back their
loans. The bank person will not
pull up your credit report on the
spot, so don't bother asking. Explain
briefly that you have no history
of debts either paid or unpaid,
and that you're looking to establish
credit. Don't talk about moving
soon: moving frequently is itself
a bad thing on your credit report,
so you could make the bank nervous
over something that might not even
happen. By the end of the "interview"
you should have a sense -- not legally
binding, but fairly clear -- of
how _that_ bank would look at your
credit history if you had one secured
card with a limit of X or several
with an aggregate limit of X.
That bank
is probably representative of all
banks. You can also explore, informally
and without legal commitment, the
possibility of a secured or unsecured
card with that bank (see below).
You could ask
the bank officer, informally, what
your chances are of getting a _regular_
credit card _if_ your credit check
reveals what you say it will. It
may be true that you have no credit
history, but that is very different
from having a bad credit history.
If you have a good-paying job and
have been paying cash all along,
I would expect you should have little
difficulty getting an unsecured
card, not with a $10K limit obviously.
If the officer is discouraging on
an unsecured card, ask if the bank
offers a secured card with a CD
at competitive interest rates.
If you have
to tie up your money for a while
anyway, a 12-month CD at 5% or 6%
is a lot better than no interest.
And there may be the possibility
of converting the same card to an
unsecured card in the future. But
ask that bank officer: you don't
want to make an application that
will likely be turned down, because
then on future apps you'll have
to disclose that you were once denied
credit. Will a secured card, paid
on time each month, benefit your
- credit rating? The answer here
when that question was asked before
- was Yes, the on-time payments
are reported to the credit bureau(s)
- and the fact that the card was
secured is not reported. So potential
- lenders see this as "regular"
credit.
There is a new twist on this of
which people should be aware. There
have been reports of credit card
issuers NOT reporting good payment
histories to the credit bureaus
in order to keep their clients with
poor credit paying higher interest.
Apparently, they have no legal
requirement to report good credit
habits.
I would advise that people order
copies of their credit reports from
all three major credit reporting
companies each year to ensure that
their good payment histories are
being reported. Do you have a checking
account at a major bank or credit
union? If - so, talk to someone
there about this issue. Your bank
might be able - to hook you up with
a credit card or secured card. Do
not fall for - the con that some
fly by night banks do which is to
charge a lot of - money for a secured
credit card in addition to the security
deposit. - Also, try opening up
some store credit cards. Ive had
a checking account at my bank since
1993 (and never overdraw that account,
either). I will talk to them as
to what my options are. As for "store
credit cards", I tried that,
and it doesn't work. Ive applied
for Radio Shack, Sears, Kmart, CompUSA,
JCPenney, etc., and always was denied
because of "insufficient credit
history"
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