Question:
My ex-husband and I filed for bankruptcy
in 1996. My student loan was placed
in the bankruptcy against my wishes.
The attorney handling the case stated
that everything we had had to be
filed on. I had been paying on my
student loan for several years and
he stated that it qualified. That
was in 1996. Earlier this year I
received a letter from Sallie Mae
(whom my loan was with) telling
me that I was behind on my payments.
I was baffled by this and after
numerous phone calls I was told
that student loans could not be
charged off and the only reason
that I was just now getting a letter
was because the loan had been listed
with the bankruptcy and as long
as it was listed they could not
contact me.
I was really
upset about this because #1 I didn't
want it in the bankruptcy to begin
with #2 it continued to accrue interest
all that time and I was not aware
of it. I had the loan paid down
to about $3500 and now it is almost
$7000!!!!!! I have tried contacting
the attorney and trustee that handled
this case and have found out that
the attorney is serving time for
fraud and the trustee is nowhere
to be found. I am still fighting
with Sallie Mae over this. The person
that I spoke to in the bankruptcy
department told me that she would
send me the necessary paperwork
to file for a forbearance until
we could figure out what was going
on but I have yet to receive it
but now I am getting letters stating
that my loan will soon go into default.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Answer:
There is an office that might be
able to sort through this with you.
You can find the website at http://sfahelp.ed.gov/
or there is a toll free number;
The Ombudsman Customer Service Line
is 1-877-557-2575. According to
the website: The SFA Ombudsman is
working with student loan borrowers
to informally resolve loan disputes
and problems. We help borrowers
having problems with the following
federal loans:
Direct Loans-Subsidized
and Unsubsidized Direct Student
Loans, Direct PLUS Loans (for parents),
and Direct Consolidation Loans;
Federal Family Education Loans-Subsidized
and Unsubsidized Stafford Loans,
FFEL PLUS Loans (for parents), and
FFEL Consolidation Loans; Guaranteed
Student Loans, SLS Loans, and Perkins
Loans. I have had no personal experience
with the ombudsman but have generally
heard good things about these types
of organizations. Usually, they
are staffed with people that want
to help and are very good at cutting
through red tape.
My ex-husband
and I filed for bankruptcy in 1996.
My student loan was placed in the
bankruptcy against my wishes. The
attorney handling the case stated
that everything we had had to be
filed on. I had been paying on my
student loan for several years and
he stated that it qualified. That
was in 1996.
OK. As long
as we're clear that I'm not your
attorney, that I don't have any
special information about your case,
and that you need to check out these
things with your attorney, preferably
with some additional research of
your own, I'll offer some off-the-cuff
reactions: Apparently you filed
bankruptcy before the deadline that
eliminated the 7-year provision
from 11 USC 523(a)(8). You might
want to take a look at my website
to get the details: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/3215/addenda.htm#amendment.
Also see http://www.lawdisks.com/ld_news.htm#anchor352305.
So, all other
things being equal, your bankruptcy
could have sought discharge on the
7-year basis, and theoretically
you might even be able to reopen
your bankruptcy filing to include
that ground if you didn't mention
it before -- uming it was applicable,
that is. It's not clear whether
your attorney thought it "qualified"
because of the 7- year thing or
because of an undue hardship argument.
> Earlier this year I received
a letter from Sallie Mae (whom my
loan was > with) telling me that
I was behind on my payments. Now,
how did the loan get to Sallie Mae?
If you consolidated, that probably
wiped out your options as far as
the 7-year rule; judges usually
seem to interpret consolidation
as the starting of a new 7-year
period. There's something on that
in my law review article, there
in my website (above) -- search
for "consolidation."
I was
baffled by this and after numerous
phone calls I was told that student
loans could not be charged off and
the only reason that I was just
now getting a letter was because
the loan had been listed with the
bankruptcy and as long as it was
listed they could not contact me.
Well, there's
an "automatic stay" that
might prevent them from contacting
you while the bankruptcy case was
still open -- but how long was the
case open? In a simple case, it
should just be a couple of months.
You may have some document from
the court telling you when the underlying
bankruptcy case closed. This is
different from the attorney's effort
to get the loan discharged in bankruptcy.
That case could drag on for a year
or more. But I'm not sure if your
attorney actually filed a complaint
to determine dischargeability. Anyway,
if they were withholding information
from you that they should have been
providing, and if they weren't prevented
from providing information by any
ongoing bankruptcy court activity,
there still may not be a lot you
can do about this. There have been
some rumblings recently about how
there should be a private right
of action (i.e., grounds for a lawsuit)
against student loan institutions
that don't play by the rules, but
my general sense is that this right
does not now exist. If they don't
observe the rules, maybe the best
you can do is complain to them,
or at least complain about them
to someone else.
I was
really upset about this because
#1 I didn't want it in the bankruptcy
to begin with #2 it continued to
accrue interest all that time and
I was not aware of it. I had the
loan paid down to about $3500 and
now it is almost $7000!!!!!!
This raises
the issue of exorbitant collection
fees. I'm not sure whether it applies
in your case, but 100% interest
does sound a bit much for just a
three- or four-year period of accumulation.
Probably you're a victim of common
collection agent practices, which
is to bill the student borrower
for the maximum amount permissible
by law, regardless of whether any
collection effort has actually been
made. Again, I don't know the ins
and outs, but this may be something
on which you have some rights. My
theory, which I have not tested
in litigation, is that this practice
is essentially a matter of unenforceable
"liquidated damages" and
that you should be able to get some
of those fees rolled back if you
sue. You might want to contact George
Gingo on that part of your case.
It's my general impression -- although,
again, I have not researched the
issue -- that once the thing goes
into bankruptcy, you probably won't
be able to get it back out. But
I definitely could be wrong on that;
it might indeed be possible to amend
your bankruptcy filing to de- list
that debt.
I have
tried contacting the attorney and
trustee that handled this case and
have found out that the attorney
is serving time for fraud and the
trustee is nowhere to be found.
Well, your
attorney's plight may provide an
argument that another attorney (or
you yourself) could use on your
behalf. It does seem that you might
have suffered from ineffective counsel.
I'm more surprised that nobody can
find the trustee. Check the Martindale-Hubbell
Law Directory in your local library.
Surely s/he used the trustee experience
as a springboard to something else;
that does seem to be the standard
approach.
I am
still fighting with Sallie Mae over
this. The person that I spoke to
in the bankruptcy department told
me that she would send me the necessary
paperwork to file for a forbearance
until we could figure out what was
going on but I have yet to receive
it but now I am getting letters
stating that my loan will soon go
into default.
Given the
figures mentioned above, I'm surprised
your loan has not already gone into
default. Or maybe it has. Are you
sure the additional $3,500 is all
interest? Have you asked to speak
to a supervisor at Sallie Mae? I
know that's kind of obvious, but
it doesn't hurt to start with the
basics. You might also try calling
the office of the ombudsman at the
Department of Education. I haven't
used them, but I would be interested
in your reactions if you do try
them. See http://sfahelp.ed.gov/.
If Sallie Mae is really determined
to screw up your paperwork, there
may not be a lot you can do about
it. This has heard from a number
of people who are frustrated with
the DoE, with guarantors, with Sallie
Mae, etc. This is a first shot.
It doesn't pretend to answer all
of the questions that might lurk
in your words. Please feel free
to follow up with additional questions.
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